The Engadget Podcast Ep 12: Surface Envy
Managing editor Dana Wollman and senior editor Devindra Hardawar join host Terrence O’Brien to talk about the value of the Esc key, the Nintendo Switch and the impeding Gilmore Girls resurrection. Then they’ll relive Microsoft’s big Surface event and dig in on future of Twitter… and whether or not it even has one.
The Flame Wars Leaderboard
Wins
Loses
Winning %
Mona Lalwani
3
1
.750
Christopher Trout
2
1
.666
Dana Wollman
10
6
.625
Devindra Hardawar
10
9
.526
Chris Velazco
3
3
.500
Cherlynn Low
6
7
.461
Nathan Ingraham
4
6
.400
Michael Gorman
1
2
.333
Relevant links:
- Apple unveils a thinner MacBook Pro with an OLED ‘Touch Bar’
- The Switch shows desperate Nintendo is the best Nintendo
- The first official Netflix ‘Gilmore Girls’ trailer is here
- Windows 10 ‘Creator’s Update’ arrives free of charge next spring
- The new Microsoft Paint lets you share terrible 3D doodles
- Microsoft passes on updating the Surface Pro
- Microsoft’s big-screen Surface Studio is an engineering marvel
- Twitter will fire around 350 employees in hunt for profits
- Twitter promises ‘meaningful’ safety updates next month
- Does anyone want to buy Twitter?
- Twitter’s troll problem likely killed Disney’s bid
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The Morning After: Friday October 28th 2016
Apple’s big MacBook event introduced a new family of Pro machines, with nary a mention of the MacBook Air. The company also expelled standard USB 3.0 ports in its new range, replacing them all with (USB-C-shaped) Thunderbolt 3.0 ports — but hey, at least there’s a fancy OLED “Touch Bar.” Meanwhile, Turkey’s government shut down internet across 11 cities in the Kurdish area of the country, Oh, and Twitter killed Vine.
There’s still a headphone jack.Apple’s thinner MacBook Pro comes with an OLED touch strip, different ports again.

An even richer Retina display, more processing power, and a smaller model along with it: Apple’s newest MacBook Pro (like its newest iPhones) is a possibly divisive upgrade for the company’s faithful. The new OLED Touch Bar on the 15-inch model had some compelling use cases from Apple, but we’re still waiting to see how it all handles during a review.
Dongles for days.Your new iPhone and new MacBook will need a new cable to connect to each other.

Apple went all in on Thunderbolt 3.0 for its new MacBook Pro. But while it’s evolving its ports , it also just made every iPhone owner who wants one of these computers buy a new dongle. Sold separately.
Just ask first.The FCC has some new privacy rules to help protect your data from internet providers.
If internet service providers want to collect data about what you do and where you go on the internet, they’ll have to ask first, thanks to some new rules approved by the FCC today. That’s a change from before, when ISPs only had to offer a way to opt out of tracking behaviour like browsing habits, app usage and location or financial data. Expect to see an updated TOS from your internet provider any minute now.
Is this what a modern TV guide looks like?The Apple TV gets a guide, but it’s missing something.

Finding something to watch on streaming services isn’t quite easy enough, even with that new Siri Remote, so Apple’s TV solution is … TV. Really, that’s the name of its TV guide app, which detects the services you’re signed into and lets you browse through their content all in one place. TV works on the iPhone and iPad too, but at least so far, it doesn’t work with Netflix or Amazon. We’ll see if that changes before it launches on Apple TV in December.
Gone in six secondsTwitter killed Vine because it doesn’t fit

Twitter announced that it’s killing its six-second video app in the next few months. There are many reasons why, but perhaps the strongest is that it didn’t really fit with CEO Jack Dorsey’s vision of “the people’s news network.”
But wait, there’s more…
- Watch Apple’s MacBook event in less than nine minutes
- The original emoji character set is going to MoMA
- Turkish government cuts off internet access in 11 cities
- Alphabet’s experimental companies are getting better and losing less money
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Marvel writer chased off Twitter by pathetic misogynists
A year ago Marvel announced that the character Mockingbird would be getting her first solo series helmed by author Chelsea Cain. The book ran from March until it was cancelled this month, with the final cover prominently displaying the message “Ask Me About My Feminist Agenda.” Predictably, this provoked the vile side of Twitter, and after the trolls amped up their harassment, Cain deactivated her account this morning. Once again, the social platform’s failure to combat harassment allowed a vocal minority to drive away a creative voice.
In a blog post, Cain explains that she didn’t leave Twitter because of horrific threats. She left because of the daily abuse, the “base level of casual crassness and sexism” that Twitter allows to persist. It didn’t take rape threats or users doxxing her address to make the social platform’s environment intolerable, Cain said: “The tweets that bothered me were never the ones concerned with content; they were the ones that questioned my right to write comics at all, and were disgusted by the idea of a female hero having her own series.”
Other users quickly rose to Cain’s defense, including many in the comics community, like Marvel editor-in-chief Axel Alonso and lauded editor and Ms. Marvel co-creator Sana Amanat:
Having creators like Chelsea Cain write comics makes our industry stronger & stories better. Support them & their work!#StandWithChelseaCain
— sana amanat (@MiniB622) October 27, 2016
The comic industry suffers from its own sexist toxicity, both at a professional level and within its fanbase. In a 2011 essay, former Dark Horse editor and co-host of the comics history podcast Jay & Miles X-Plain The X-Men Jay Edidin summarized how the industry got here: More men held more control over fewer comics publishers and created content for their envisioned male demographic. This formed a chicken-and-egg causation whirlpool that alienated many girls and women, keeping them from joining the fanbase and entering the comics industry.
Some persisted over the decades, enduring the boys club exclusivity and harassment to lay the foundation for more women to create comics. There’s certainly a higher population in the professional echelon today and publishers are paying more attention to their female fans, but parts of comics fan culture remains from the days when Marvel and DC catered almost exclusively to men. These are the vocal and entitled lot that lash out on social media against female creators. Resisting that abuse often takes drastic measures, as comics writer and artist Kate Leth explained:
I forget about it most days because it’s taken 5 years to get to a point where I can’t see someone telling me to kill myself every day
— Leth Merenghi 💀📚🕯 (@kateleth) October 26, 2016
Cain left on rather moderate terms compared to the extensive racist harassment that bullied actress Leslie Jones off Twitter back in July. But at the end of the day, both fled rather than deal with a toxic minority of the social network’s userbase. Even if much of the blame for Cain’s exit lies with the hostile comics fans that refuse to embrace (or even tolerate) female voices in the medium, Twitter’s inaction allows the bullying to continue. Its persistent failure to combat abuse already may have prevented a deal to get bought. Then again, Disney’s back to sniffing around for a possible acquisition, so maybe Twitter doesn’t have to fix its harassment problem before money saves the day. For them.
Source: The Daily Dot
Twitter’s identity crisis killed Vine
Today, Twitter announced that it’s effectively killing Vine, its short-form video service. Though you can still download and watch already-posted Vines, you won’t be able to upload new six-second clips from now on. It’s a shame, but in a way, it’s been a long time coming. The platform has been a lot less active than it used to be, with many flocking to Instagram and Snapchat instead for their video-sharing fix. But what really killed Vine is that it no longer fits in Twitter’s revamped business strategy: live news.
The news comes on the heels of Twitter’s latest quarterly report, which not only revealed that it would be laying off 350 employee, but that it was also restructuring to be profitable in 2017. And no wonder — though it continues to make money, Twitter has never turned a profit and user growth has remained stagnant. Even after co-founder Jack Dorsey took over as CEO last year, the company just couldn’t seem to turn its fortunes around.
2016 in particular has been rough for Twitter. Not only did it see an exodus of executives, it also faced increasing scrutiny over its constant harassment problems. The problem reached a fever pitch this year when SNL’s Leslie Jones received a barrage of racist and sexist tweets, leading her to briefly quit. Twitter did eventually ban the leader of that mob as well as implement quality filters and a safety council, but the damage was already done. Plus, those efforts don’t seem to have solved matters either. Marvel writer Chelsea Cain was also recently driven off Twitter due to abusive comments she received about her work.
This turned out to be a sticking point when Twitter sought to sell itself a few months ago. Several companies were interested in the deal — Salesforce, Google and Disney, to name a few — but all were ultimately scared off, in part because of the toxic reputation of Twitter’s users. Indeed, it seems as if Disney was even really close to pulling the trigger, but Twitter’s online abuse issues proved too messy for Disney’s family-friendly image.
Meanwhile, Vine was fading. As mentioned earlier, it was losing valuable market share to Instagram and Snapchat. Not only do they both allow for longer clips (Instagram allows up to 60 seconds while Snapchat’s restriction is 10) but there’s also a lot less pressure to be funny or original. Vine was a fun place to be creative and quirky, sure, but most people just want to take goofy videos of their cat. Furthermore, the stars that did emerge on Vine quickly discovered that there weren’t a lot of monetization opportunities there and eventually fled to other platforms.
See what’s happening: https://t.co/ChbWRrSJyKhttps://t.co/r9AZd9rzI3
— Twitter (@twitter) July 25, 2016
At the same time, Twitter is still trying to find its voice. A few months ago, it launched an audacious television ad campaign that positioned itself as a place to “see what’s happening.” It was the beginning of Twitter trying to rebrand as a source for live news, not just a social network. It introduced Moments, a feature that highlights trends and news tweets and further integrated Periscope, its video streaming platform. Most recently, it started dabbling into live programming, such as Thursday Night Football and the US presidential debates. It’s even going to air two live original shows produced by the NBA.
As the possibility of a Twitter sale dwindled, it became clear that the company needed to double down on this vision. In a leaked internal memo, Dorsey said the site was a place for “news and talk,” making it “the people’s news network.” If Twitter is going to remain independent — which it seems like it’ll have to — it needs to focus in on a single purpose. For now, that appears to be in live news and entertainment. And unfortunately, six-second video loops have no place in this world.
Twitter is killing Vine
Bad news for fans of the once-popular Vine video-sharing network. Its parent company Twitter announced today that it is killing the service’s mobile app, meaning you can no longer create new clips. The website will still exist to showcase already-posted footage, although it’s not clear whether you might be able to record new material in future.
You’ll still be able to access and download your Vines, and the company promises to alert users before making any changes to the app or website. However, it appears that uploading new content will no longer be possible.
This news means Twitter is essentially killing Vine. The looping-video serivce already seen an exodus of high-profile creators and executives as it struggles to compete with the likes of Instagram and Snapchat. Vine may eventually be integrated within Twitter, just as some features of the company’s other app Periscope has, but that’s probably not a top concern of its parent company right now.
Twitter itself is in turmoil and is struggling to find profit amidst reports of internal struggles over whether to sell the company. Regardless of what eventually happens, it looks like time to bid goodbye to Vine, at least for now, and move on to another service.
Source: Vine on Medium
Twitter Shutting Down Vine
Twitter today announced plans to shut down Vine, the video sharing service it acquired in 2012. Twitter plans to discontinue the mobile app “in the coming months,” but did not give a specific timeline.
Introduced in early 2013, Vine allows users to capture and share looping video clips that are six seconds in length, sharing them on various social networks like Facebook and Twitter.
Thank you. Thank you. To all the creators out there – thank you for taking a chance on this app back in the day. To the many team members over the years who made this what it was – thank you for your contributions. And of course, thank you to all of those who came to watch and laugh every day.
Twitter plans to leave the Vine website intact, so Vines will continue to be available to watch and download. Twitter promises to notify users well in advance of any changes to the app or website.
The shuttering of Vine comes amid massive layoffs at Twitter. Twitter is letting go of approximately nine percent of its staff, or 350 people, as it works on cutting down on costs and restructures its priorities.
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Twitter promises ‘meaningful’ safety updates next month
Twitter is a real time platform for news and conversation, but sometimes that conversation can get quite nasty. The company’s laissez faire attitude toward freedom of expression has seen it develop a reputation for toxicity that’s scared off several potential buyers, including Disney. That’s why, Twitter is now pledging to deal with its cultural problems by making “meaningful” changes to its “safety policy, product, and enforcement strategy.”
The prevalence of Twitter trolls is often blamed for the site’s slow user growth and difficulty with advertisers. It’s hoped that this new strategy will give people “more control over their Twitter experience” and offer the “most important safety features” to users. That may not be enough, however, given that how easy it is to find accounts spreading racism, targeted harassment of women and minorities or threats of violence.
The company has attempted to fix this problem several times over, with former CEO Dick Costolo famously admitting that the site “suck(s) at dealing with trolls” and “sucked at it for years.” At the start of 2016 the service launched a safety council that included representatives from organizations like the Samaritans and GLAAD.
Unfortunately, the move didn’t seem to affect any meaningful change, and Twitter was often in the headlines for negative reasons. SNL’s Leslie Jones received a barrage of abuse in the run up to the launch of Ghostbusters that temporarily forced her off the site. The site subsequently banned the leader of that mob, but that hasn’t done much to make everyone behave more politely.
Source: Twitter (.PDF)
Twitter will fire around 350 employees in hunt for profits
Twitter’s not had a great time of it lately, with several would-be suitors deciding that they didn’t want to buy the burgeoning social network anyway. Now, the company has announced its latest financial results and a restructuring plan in the hope of making itself profitable by 2017. The headline initiative will be to hack back nine percent of the company’s workforce — around 350 employees. It mirrors a similar move Dorsey made in October 2015 when he fired 336 people from the company in order to cut costs. Twitter expects that the sackings will cost between $10 and $20 million to cover severance fees.
It’s not all doom and gloom, however, since the company could post some kinda-sorta positive things on the money side. For instance, revenue from advertising and data licensing both increased, and the number of users that “engage” with Twitter’s adverts increased by 91 percent. The service also managed to keep its monthly active user numbers almost flat, dispelling the narrative that people were ditching the platform in their droves.
Money-wise Twitter pulled in $616 million, which was an eight percent bump over the cash it made in the same quarter last year. Unfortunately, the firm lost $103 million overall, and CFO (and, according to Bloomberg, de-facto leader) Anthony Noto says that the firm is becoming “more disciplined” about how it spends its money. It’s hoped that fewer employees, a simplified business and “de-prioritizing certain initiatives” will help Twitter become profitable. Although Noto didn’t explain which initiatives will be cut, it’s going to be interesting to see what Twitter discards in an attempt to save cash.
Source: Twitter (.PDF)
The NBA’s live Twitter shows debut this week
As promised, the NBA and Turner have launched their two original shows on Twitter… and they might scratch your itch if you can’t get enough basketball in your life. The first, The Starters, streams live every Tuesday at 11AM Eastern and delivers passionate commentary from the crew that hosts NBA TV and official podcasts. The Warmup, meanwhile, is a more interactive affair: the half-hour show from Ben Lyons and Ro Parrish integrates Twitter chats into each episode (Thursdays at 7:30PM Eastern), and it merges b-ball with “lifestyle, music and pop culture.” It’s more of an entertainment show that just happens to have basketball as a hook, then.
You can visit either show on the web, and the NBA’s Twitter account will also host shows as they air. Twitter is also marking the occasion with hashtag-triggered flags for all 30 league teams: tweet hashtags like #DubNation (Warriors) or #WeTheNorth (Raptors) and you’ll show your pride.
The shows aren’t the same as watching honest-to-goodness games, but they help fill out Twitter’s strategy of offering live programming for virtually every major sport in the US and beyond. The jury’s still out on how well this sports-centric strategy works, though. Twitter has only been offering its live sports coverage since July, and it remains to be seen how many will tune in online versus tweeting while they watch games on TV.
Source: Twitter Blog, The Starters, The Warmup
Bloomberg: Twitter plans to lay off several hundred employees
Last year when Jack Dorsey returned as CEO of Twitter, the company let go of more than 300 people, and a Bloomberg report indicates history will repeat itself this year. Citing anonymous sources, the outlet reports that while planning is fluid, a similarly-sized cut of about eight percent of the workforce is in the works and could occur before the company reports earnings Thursday.
As usual, Twitter’s corporate future feels uncertain, especially after rumored opportunities for its acquisition by companies like Google, Disney or Salesforce came and went. Now, it has moved its quarterly earning report release from Thursday afternoon, after the markets close, to Thursday morning. Does that mean anything special? Until we see the numbers, who knows.
Source: Bloomberg



